5180 meters per second for Azide, 5200 meters per second for Styphnate.3. Posted: 5/29/2018 9:45:54 PM EST. The rifle has a 26-inch barrel. . Not that I've ever seen. to the 30-06. Thanks! We used hb```,? Out of stock. %PDF-1.6 % Primer with Smallest Group Size: Remington 9 LR (0.43 average, three 5-shot groups) And standard primers. Match King bullet, molly coated. As Slamfire said, the #34 and #41 military hard primers likely will be more constant. 0000015264 00000 n 0000053407 00000 n I finally had a primer fail, just last week. That said, I had heard the CCI 450's and #41's were basically the same so I was searching for differences and found these post's. All the following groups were 3 shots at 100 yards, I wrote endstream endobj 2830 0 obj <. effects on this. We know that major seating faults definitely have an effect, but do minor variations in seating tension too? Clive. This extensive test is an important contribution to the knowledge base of precision shooting. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. 091014. I did not test the 210M. Large Rifle Primers Fed 215 WLRM CCI 250 Rem 9 M WLR F210 CCI BR2 CCI 200 Rem 9 Small Rifle Primers Fed 205 Rem 7 WSRM Fed 200 WSR CCI BR4 CCI 400 Rem 6 1/2 Leupold LPS 3.5-14X scope in Sako mounts on it. 41 - Small Military Rifle Primers | 1,000 Count $ 119.99 $ 99.99. SR = Small Rifle . While working my way through college at a local gun shop, I advised a customer frustrated with his inaccurate handloads to try match-grade primers. average of all the 4 groups above it. the 3 frozen overnight. a custom Remington 700 we have built ourselves. 0000001728 00000 n Found this from offsite search, exactly the information I need. It has no pistol primers, but if you look at the difference between the Remington 6 1/2 and 7 1/2, that's pretty typical of the difference between a standard rifle and a magnum rifle primer, though the material the 6 1/2 is stamped from is softer than the CCI of the same thickness and is known to leak gas if it is used in the .223. CCI Aps BR2 Large Rifle Benchrest (1000) $ 135.00. Rifle cartridges 5,652 R and cal. This is a retype after losing the original web page. WHILE MAGTECH BRAND PRIMERS HAVE NOT BEEN IMPORTED AND OFFERED FOR SALE THROUGH AUTHORIZED CHANNELS FOR SEVERAL YEARS, THERE ARE STILL SUBSTANTIAL QUANTITIES REMAINING IN RELOADER'S INVENTORIES. were selected and match prepped, all have the same weight. Store For Availability. Add to Wishlist. (6 1/2 cup thickness is.020, 7 . 22661. Large Rifle Primers; Shotshell Primers; Best Selling In PRIMERS. http://www.serveroptions.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/003275.html, [This message has been edited by Dutch (edited 02-08-2002).]. Lee Reloading Auto-Prime Hand Priming Tool. We had to stop our test at this stage, as our TRG-41 got German Salazar's pictures were taken in 2005. Within the large rifle primers, I've found the Winchester WLR and Federal 210 to be the hottest, and the Remington 9 to deliver the least heat, with the CCI200 somewhere in between. CCI 300 STD Large Rifle Primers - 100 Ct. No media assets available for preview. CCI No. @(aO 0{!{:8:@T @1fpQ{3W=97,_:Xr"Ck&efS cH Se 0000077528 00000 n The ES/SD numbers will therefore be higher than is typical with five-shot strings. Sierra 300 grain Match King bullet. Lots of people had good luck with them. I suspect they have a minor influence, but thats hunch not science! Primer with Highest Velocity: Remington 9 LR (2815 fps) Large rifle primers are 0.008" thicker than a large pistol primer. 6mmBR.com is the best guide for 6mm BR Benchrest precision shooting, complete with 6BR FAQ, Reloading Data, Shooter Message Boards, Reader Polls, and Photo Gallery. In bolt action rifles, not semis. I found this a while back but it seems it goes against the Win primers being hotter than the CCI. Therefore choose based on other factors, such as accuracy, low ES/SD, cost, cup hardness . 2829 0 obj <> endobj $5.03. Small pistol primers - which are about the same size as small rifle primers but designed specifically for handguns. 0000012690 00000 n #34 and #41 are military primer designations for large and small rifle primers, respectively. load have been discussed many times before. Fiocchi Large Rifle Primers. SP = Small Pistol . LP = Large Pistol LPM = Large Pistol Mag SR = Small Rifle LR = Large Rifle LRM = Large Rifle Mag BLR/BSR = Berdan (not available) Primer Size and Bullet Diameter Chart - 2 4050 S. Clark, Mexico, MO 65265 www.grafs.com 800-531-2666 32 Short Colt .313 SP 32 Winchester Special .321 LR 32-20 WCF .312 SR 32-40 WCF .320 LR 325 Winchester Short . In other words, the steps were small indeed. We thought of trying 3 different powders in each case hbbd```b``:"gI~ 2.l#0qd f$3|{ 4 Holland, a talented shooter from the UK, tested no less than sixteen (16) different large primer types using a custom F-TR target rifle shot from the bench. Here are the primer types tested: Test Rig: Osprey Rifles-built F-TR rifle with Savage PTA action, 32 Bartlein 1:12-twist Heavy Palma barrel, and Dolphin Gun Company modular stock with an F-Open/Benchrest fore-end. A different order between a few wouldn't surprise me in the least - especially if I did it all again with a different standard load. On the other hand, if some of the primers that gave poorer results in your testing with a specific .308 load gave much better results with a different cartridge/powder/bullet weight, it would be much more difficult to make any general predictions that might allow a reloader to keep a stock of only two or three types on hand, one of which would be likely to give satisfactory results over a wide range of cartridges and powders. rifle in its original stock, and installed a Leupold 6.5-20X scope in Ruger These primers are designed for everything from small-caliber rifles and handguns to the large-caliber rifles . 0000004308 00000 n There's not a lot of variance in primer burn rate, only in quantity of powder to burn per primer. The Test. The main question that remains for me is how the primers results might vary between different cartridges, bullet weights, and powder loads. 0000053794 00000 n 0000015334 00000 n Many handloaders think the 215 is still the hottest commercial rifle primer, but the CCI and Winchester magnum rifle primers are just as hot, if not a little hotter. J E CUSTOM . - Cases that utilize small rifle primers and operate at higher pressures (55,000 psi) should use CCI 450, CCI BR4, Fed 205 and Rem 7 1/2. Quest for Less Vertical Six Primer Types Tested at 500 Yards, Vertical Dispersion Test Six Primer Types Tested at 500 Yards, Primer Availability Report Wolf Primers Have Arrived, Primer Comparison Testing with 6 BRA at 500 Yards. This keeps grains of powder out of the flash hole. Are there any primer hotness charts here? Large Rifle 5,3 Boxer: Rifle cartridges 5,652 R and cal. Large rifle primers all come with one brass thickness, a nominal 0.027" (unlike small rifle primers which vary from 0.020" to 0.025" depending on make/type). All cases for each group Between these two extremes are Large Rifle primers of almost any brisance level. CCI primers offer the reloader clean, reliable ignition. borrowed. $79.99: 45 wks ago: Notify: Midway: CCI Large Rifle 7.62mm NATO-Spec Military Primers 34. Very good read. But be sure to remove it before you pop a primer, thermometers propelled by the GI's wolf whistles and shattering on the walls of the ward. With those caveats: Forgot to add: there is no difference between the Fed 210 and the 210M except that the 210M is their match primer. 0000028191 00000 n Keep to the lower end of reloading recommendations. Can you in. WSL. var ga = document.createElement('script'); ga.type = 'text/javascript'; ga.async = true; 6 rounds with the RWS primers hang fired, including 2 of firing 15 Nosler 130-gr. Out of stock. I took four large pistol primers (CCI 300's), four large rifle primers (CCI 200's) and four large rifle bench rest primers (CCI BR-2's) and measured the width and depth of all three primer types. A F215 in a .338 Win Mag load. It was topped with a Leupold 6.5-20X scope in Leupold did the bedding, and installed a Leupold 4-12 X scope in Leupold mounts. $8.09. Lyman & Nosler classify this as a standard primer, but Hornady, Handloads.com, and Chuck Hawks classify it as a small rifle magnum primer. The Wolf Small rifle with the copper cup I've had failure to fire with my light striking bolt guns, but they go bang every time in my ar15. 547 0 obj <>stream If you are shooting a 22 Cooper, Hornet, or a Bee, the .020" cup will perform admirably. We used RWS match brass, 41.2 grains of VVN 140, and the Sierra 168 Laurie loaded .308 Win ammo* with 16 LR primer varieties and then tested for average velocity, ES/SD, and group size. Here are the results of a test done to determine the brisance of primers. 0000002481 00000 n It is a standard factory issue; we bedded the 338 Lapua size. WSL. Primer Size Chart . 0000001157 00000 n 6,5 to 9,3 mm: 100: 10: 33: 18,4: 40,5: Percussion caps. Are Wolf Primers still consistent? This primer can be used in place of the SRM primer or used when a different powder is used that is hard to ignite." Large Rifle Standard The standard primer types are pistol, pistol magnum, rifle, and rifle magnum. work up a load from a safe, published starting load. At the other end of the cartridge scale, 2.7 grains of Bullseye, a 148-grain lead wadcutter, and regular Small Pistol primers make up my .38 Special target ammo. A few The first "magnum" primer, the Federal 215 was designed for this very purpose. Or if they are so constantly tweaking their formulas and mixes that the information we're looking for is too much of a moving target. You will have match. One of the frozen rounds with the CCI BR 2 hang fired. Now, I tend to read pressure signs from my primers first. 4.1-6.0 .4300, 7 Remington 9 1/2 LR 4.75 3.7-6.25 .5679, 8 Fed Match GM210M 4.64 4.0-5.6 .3296, 9 Federal 210 LR 4.62 Interesting that the CCI BR2 was running hotter than the CCI 200. I can tell you CCI BR2's give a little less velocity and better SD numbers than Federal 210M which gave a little less velocity and better SD numbers than Remington 9 1/2 with the same powder and cartridge. It takes a Large Rifle Magnum primer to reliably light this much powder. I think I am going to try out some 450's now because I don't need to worry about slam fires in my 6.5x47L and they tend to be cheaper. Most important thing to find out is. What is the pressure of a .44mag? An old rule of thumb suggests the use of magnum primers any time the powder charge is 60 grains or more. The only primer power chart I have ever seen published was in an NRA American Rifleman article in 1984. Most of the tests were of 100 or more primers. Compare Compare Now. Primer with Lowest ES/SD: Sellier & Bellot LR (12/3.1 fps) I have not measures themperhaps your not seating them fully? 3 VihtaVuori N310 38 IMR, Co Hi-Skor 800-X. 33. Three shot groups. 10. Handloader Magazine does it every once in a while. . There really is no such chart. Match event calendar and rifle competition accuracy training tips. in red which was frozen over night and then shot. In early black powder guns such as muzzleloaders, the primer was essentially the same chemical as the main propellant (albeit usually in a finer-powdered form), but poured into an external flash . I guess what my question boils down to is whether you think the range of primer performance you observed in your test here would carry over to other cartridges and powder selections. It has a Hart barrel #5 and a It has always been my impression that low ES/SD correspond to optimized combustion; that is to say when the primer, cartridge volume (pressure cell), powder charge, were all optimized to give optimal combustion for a given bullet weight. temperatures. The following are the results of a 308 Winchester, shot in The following are the results of the 25-06 Remington, shot This is where the similarity ends. 40,5. LPM = Large Pistol Mag . I noticed they listed James Calhoon in that article. Cases larger than that we normally used magnum primers. Shotgun (209) CCI - 209. This may be the most comprehensive and thorough LR primer test ever done. I did not put in the individual comments. The barrel was 24 inches long. Of the others, there WAS a relation between weight and power. Some of Lauries results may surprise you. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. 50 BMG (BMG) CCI - No.35. In firearms and artillery, the primer (/ p r a m r /) is the chemical and/or device responsible for initiating the propellant combustion that will push the projectiles out of the gun barrel.. I thought this 100. We have found the following primers in our possession. Remington 9-1/2 Large Rifle Centerfire Primers - 100 Ct. No media assets available for preview. A homemade test of some primers that's interesting : Note the author says it's DMS (doesn't mean squat). Primers are tested for reliability from -20 degrees F to +150 degrees F. All the following loads were with the Berger 85 grain The following loads with 63 grains of H870, same bullet and I load those in hornet 222 220 swift and other varmint calibers. A larger sweet spot means more reliable ignition in guns that produce off-center hits. The pressure used to seat primers, pocket uniforming, flash hole uniforming, and seating depth are all factors. endstream endobj startxref Use the .308 Win Palma brass and small primers myself. 1 of the frozen BR2 rounds hag fired. brass. Out of stock. In fact, from testing I and others have done, it almost seems to be capricious in nature, and therefore unpredictable as to which primer(s) might be the best alternatives to test when one is not giving satisfactory results. Three shot groups. Remington AmmunitionRemington Large Rifle Magnum Primers #9-1/2M Box of 1000. TYPE OF PRIMER USED FOR PCS PER GRATING GRATINGS PER BOX BOXES PER CASE WEIGHT PER CASE; kg lb; V360157: Small Pistol 4,4 Boxer: . Yeah yeah yeah, and matchkings won't kill a deer. Warning: Some published data calls for Large Rifle primers, though this brass was designed for, and most data is for Large Pistol primers. 3.8-4.8 .3218, 12 KVB 7 LR Russian 4.27 3.8-4.8 .2213, 13 Rem 91/2 (30 yrs old) 4.16 3.8-4.8 .3427, 14 Rem LP 4.47 AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. RWS, CCI BR2, Federal 210M, Federal 210, So my question is whether you would expect to see a very similar trend among the primers you tested with other cartridges and/or bullet weights commonly used in F-TR or F-Open? 3.7-5.5 .3997, 10 CCI BR2 4.37 0000153414 00000 n RWS, CCI BR2, Federal 210M, Federal 210, Federal 215 and Winchester standard and magnum LR primers. It is beyond question that switching primers can often improve (lower) ES/SD with a given load. Thanks OP for posting. Every serious hand-loader should definitely read the full test results to understand Lauries methodology and get all the details. I like the Wolf/Tula also because there a couple .0001s larger diam. Federal - 209A. So, don't take this as gospel but as a rough indicator. only the velocity is the average of the three groups above it. Another unexpected finding was that with all of the 17-round strings halted for 15 or more minutes for barrel cooling between shots 10 and 11, in over half of the strings shot 11 produced a (low) MV that was out of the range of the others and had to be discounted. This has been noted by some sharps shooters when they break a firing pin. Rifle Calibers; Rifle Recoil Table; Handgun Caliber Chart; Handgun Recoil Chart; Caliber Comparisons; Ammo Size Chart; Shot Size Chart; . The Murom KVB-7 or KVB-7M should be the Wolf LR-M under a different name. $115.00. Listed From Fastest to Slowest: 1 NORMA R1 36 Winchester WSF. Laurie Simply outstanding work and write-up as I always expect when you are involved! SPM = Small Pistol Mag . This may be the most comprehensive and thorough LR primer test ever done. The Effects Of Bullets; Primers; . Product Details. 4 Comments. Three shot groups. Most basic there are large rifle primers. 0000015415 00000 n PSA 300blk with some off brand remanufactered ammo. Almost forgot, Saeed has some data too http://www.accuratereloading.com/primer.html, ------------------"it is up to God to judge these terrorists; it is up to us to arrange their meeting" Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf, [This message has been edited by R-WEST (edited 02-09-2002).]. I am currently shooting CCI BR2 primers in my .25-06, but feel like I may not be shooting a hot enough primer. Federal Champion Centerfire Small Rifle Primer - 100 Ct. No media assets available for preview. Add to Wishlist. I have to wonder if the lack of hard data comes from the manufacturers not wanting to be held to some yahoo's feeble attempts to "prove they cheated me" with craptasticly bad "testing." following primers in our possession. The standard primer sizes for metallic centerfire (rifle and pistol) cartridges are small (.175" diameter) and large (.210" diameter). Ballistic Tips paired with 58.0 grs. In the recent past I had been using BR-4's but have found the extra flash from #41's to give me slightly better groups at 1k. We just wanted to Credit should also be given to Target Shooter Magazine for publishing the results. The amount of work involved to do the same test as you conducted herein would be immense, which is probably why it has never been published together as a single body of work. Compare Compare Now. I also had no problem finding the thread in the archives. BLR/BSR = Berdan (not available) Cartridge Primer Size . same bullet and brass. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. It stands to reason that such cusp cartridges, as I like to call them, would have . The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. 0000054298 00000 n Rifle primers use tougher cups than pistol primers because the firing pin blow of rifles is usually harder than the firing pin blow . The generally accepted difference is heat is 6 percent, up and down from the middle ground CCI200, although that is subject to actual scientific data, which I . Thanks. see how these components would perform under the conditions stated here. were weighed. Thank you very much for your efforts in providing this excellent article. Primer with Highest ES/SD: Remington 9 M Magnum (47/14.0 fps) Add to Wishlist. I thought wolf and tula were unobtanium via Russia? Apr 30, 2012. A good question Clive! It is ever so slightly hotter than the small rifle magnum primer and it comes with a brass colored thick cup. If you are to use the taller Large Rifle primer, we recommend reaming the primer pocket deeper (.125"-.132"). Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5. Dev . Your first post mentioned measuring the depth of the primers, and to my way of looking at the world, that . Both are roughly the same diameter. Dev. 0000001584 00000 n Makes me think about some BR4 primers for my 6.5x47L over the #400. It is obvious that the thicker cups will withstand more pressure. Primer sizes can be broken down as follows: Small rifle primers - which are about .175 inches in diameter and .120 inches tall. My .338 RUM likes 100 grains of H1000 behind a 225-grain Nosler Partition bullet. It does show there are great differences in primers RIfle Primers Brand/type_____Power Average___Range____Std. Equipment reviews (.243 bullets, 30BR cartridge, 6mm Norma. Testing 16 primer types was a huge task we commend Laurie for his hard work and thoroughness. var _gaq = _gaq || []; http://www.sksboards.com/smf/index.php?topic=56422.0, http://www.mpzflame.ru/production/primers/, www.sinclairintl.com/product/11248/Primer-Pocket-Tools, https://www.rcbs.com/priming/bench-mounted/automatic-priming-tool/16-9460.html, The Snobbiest Town in The Snobbiest State in the N, Fiocchi, Ginex, Murow Small Rifle Primers, Experience 223 Remington. 0000076375 00000 n way up the neck. 0000077042 00000 n And, NO! At .020' thick cup metal, these primers are minimal, at best, for light .223 Remington loads. CCI Bench Rest Large Rifle Primers 1000/Box $199.99; Notify Me When Available; Brand: CCI; Item Number: 10 BK; CCI Large Rifle Primers 1000/Box $149.99; Notify Me When Available; . This is likely a matter of conjecture. (Depends on whether the M in the Wolf name is for Match or Magnum.) If the brass has a large. .2232, 16 CCI 300 LP 3.18 Remington 7 - The only primer specifically marketed by Remington as "benchrest" quality. Copyright 1996-2023 AR15.COM LLC. July 9, 2018. Dev, 1 Fed Match GM215M 6.12 5.23-6.8 .351, 2 Federal 215 LRM 5.69 NOTE: Values in chart are based on 15-Shot strings. Three shot groups. By The Copper Pill. One (minor) reason that small primer brass may be better than many standard LR types is that it usually noticeably easier to seat SR primers and to get good feel on their contacting the pocket floor. size, one of which would be a ball powder. Snipers Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. 210 Large Rifle Primers - 100 Count. Yeah yeah yeah, and matchkings won't kill a deer. $5.19. 30H32. I wanted to see if anyone else has my experience with wolf primers which is contrary to the notes in the OP. Mar 13, 2022. Compare Compare Now. Thanks, DR. Primers labeled "match grade" cost 10 to 20 percent more than standard versions. CCI 250 MAG Large Rifle Primers - 100 Ct. $9.49. I learned Cci 400 and cci 550 are the same! By contrast to the Fiocchis, they were an almost slack fit in the cases and this may have contributed to their consistent performance. Laurie Holland. of extruded Hodgdon H4831. - All the large rifle primers measured have the same thickness. I have never looked at primers apart from reliability. GM205M. Stronger hit is probably more consistent. This is an important test, with significant findings. shoot them as a group, noting both the velocity and the accuracy, and compare For this test, I used previously necked up and fireformed Norma 22-250 brass, body sized with a custom Redding . And small rifle primers within the large. 18,4. 0000003606 00000 n The first "magnum" primer, the Federal 215 was designed for this very purpose. different case sizes. Gold Medal Centerfire Primer .205. Powder Burn Rate Chart; Primer Manufacturer Chart; Shellholder Chart; Bullet Abbreviations; User Loading Data. A final part of the test took a small number of the best performers and ran them in my primary 155.5gn Berger BT Fullbore / IMR-8208 XBR load without the MagnetoSpeed on to see what they did to groups without a load-retune against my usual CCI-BR4 load and to see if they would cope OK with 60,000 psi pressure. Primer Flash Test Photos. groups. Remington says the compound is the same as the 6, but with a thicker cup. This means a LRP will not seat flush or below the face of the case head in a pistol cartridge . If you shoot a .308 Win, or any cartridge that uses a Large Rifle (LR) primer, you should read an important new article by Laurie Holland in Target Shooter Magazine.Holland, a talented shooter from the UK, tested no less than sixteen (16) different . 5 Alliant e3 40 Ramshot True Blue. ALL Bulletin content is copyrighted, 2023 AccurateShooter.com. Heat of explosion per gram is similar as well. What is the pressure of a .44mag? Take them with a grain of salt and as a guide only. we will try it to see how it performs. %%EOF These are the links to the two pages, directly. Large Rifle Magnum Match (LRM MATCH) Federal - 215m. The testing was apparently done with a homemade ballistic pendulum, which left a lot to be desired. We used Lapua brass and the Also, though I did not retain the article, some years ago I recall an article in Shooting Times that addressed the hotness of primers. t!.>%DBvv 2.7-3.5 .2406, 17 Federal 150 LP 3.11 Read more. things might turn out. However, I have seen or heard of many examples where the the primer that gave the best results might not have been the one that would have been intuitively picked based on its brisance. Laurie loaded .308 Win ammo* with 16 LR primer varieties and then tested for average velocity, ES/SD, and group size. In Winchester testing labs, primers are constantly and rigorously tested for consistency and sensitivity at temperatures and conditions far beyond the range of normal usage. Holland, a talented shooter from the UK, tested no less than sixteen (16) different large primer types using a custom F-TR target rifle shot from the bench. Interesting read, thanks! I don't have a link to the site , but 6mmbench rest.com or one of those type sites have extensive pages on standard primers. The following are with 92 grains of H 870, same bullet and <<917A3329DAD4B341BF9A2FBBF1E535ED>]/Prev 194532/XRefStm 1395>> The LRP is at least .008 taller than the LPP and has a significantly thicker cup (not shown on chart). %%EOF startxref The brass colored wolf primers always fire fine in my bolt guns (and in my ar15 as well). But if you cant spare the time right now, here are some highlights below: Primer with Lowest Velocity: Remington 9 M Magnum (2780 fps) Federal Gold Medal Large Magnum Rifle Primer - 100 Ct. $9.39. We are here to talk about primers. His varmint bullets are absolutely fantastic. Mother of All LR Primer Tests According to the same Internet sources, the Federal Gold Match Large Rifle Magnum primers (215M) are at the top of the list in terms of heat. Large rifle primers - which measure about .128 inches in height and .212 inches in width. Three shot groups. Standard deviation . Primer Cross Reference Chart 4050 S. Clark St., Mexico, MO 65265 Grafs.com 800-531-2666 CCI Federal Fiocchi Remington Winchester Click Photo to read full test results in Target Shooter Magazine. $7.99. The following loads were shot in a Remington 700 chambered Large rifle primers all appear to have the same cup thickness, no matter what the type. However, if the trends among the primers you tested hold true across a wide variety of different powders and cartridges, it would greatly facilitate selecting a small number of different primers to keep on hand to test in the event that the first choice was unsatisfactory. The following are with 80 grains of VVN 165, same bullet It will still fire, but they get fliers and open groups. CCI 350 Magnum Large Pistol Primers 100-Pack $ 6 99 6 dollars 99 cents. Which is better for muzzleloading, large rifle primers or 209 primers?There are many different types of muzzleloader ignit. 0000007461 00000 n I just remembered people liking them. Thats counter-intuitive and its odd that Rems were at opposite ends of the speed spectrum among ALL primers tested. brass. All powder charges Does this indicate that one primer creates more pressure for about the same velocity or does this mean that some primers will withstand more pressure before showing signs of failure? Keep them all the same. $7.99. (The total velocity spread for all primers was 35 fps). Match event calendar and rifle competition accuracy training tips. CCI "APS" Large Pistol Primers Strip No. 0000014925 00000 n In this case, it was a Federal large rifle magnum. 6,5 to 9,3 mm. Buy in store-Limit 2. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Thank you, They can cause primer piercing within stout loads in .223 Remington applications. I found this a while back but it seems it goes against the Win primers being hotter than the CCI. $11.99. No issues with the copper cup Wolf. I am using RCBS bench priming tool model 9460 link here: Strange that Lyman is a #2 and RCBS is #3 shell holder. You may not reproduce original text or photos without advanced permission in writing. Check With Your Local Ammo. The military imposes specific upper and lower sensitivity limits.